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You, Steve, have chosen to sing the sweet song of Triumph over death and fear. My story is very similar. So all of Steve Hodels stories about the swanky parties his parents threw at the Sowden House you guessed it: Lies. These Records may also relate to: Dorothy Hodel Dorothy Grace Barbe California, Death Index, 1940-1997 Dorothy Hodel 1940 United States Federal Census SKH Note: Faunas autobiography would not be written until 2008, some five years after the publication of my book, Black Dahlia Avenger and some four years after Tamar wrote and sent me the below account of the facts, to be told in The Tamar Chronicles. Hi Kris: Thanks for the kind words. Your email address will not be published. Dee: Steve Hodel is a 24-year veteran of the Los Angeles Police Department and, as a Homicide Detective Supervisor, handled over 300 murder investigations in its Hollywood Division before retiring in 1986. The brief accounting I listened to when you appeared on Dr. No, recent DNA testing has eliminated and dispelled the rumor that George Hodel was her father. What did she know? Everything is revealed in the light of eternity. Good Morning Mr Hodel, Medical doctor and noted member of Los Angeles society. Amanda: Most of the readily available information about Dorothy Huston Hodel (ne Harvey) comes from her son, Steve Hodel. Copyright 2023 Steve Hodel. Sixth Surrealist Secret Revealed -1950 Sketch Pays Further Homage to and Again Links, Close Friend, Dr. George Hill Hodel to the 1947 Black Dahlia Murder. Steve, where in Donegal does your mums family come from ?Im fascinated here in Donegal lol. Thanks for the kind words. He was a copyeditor of the LA Times who had dreams of solving the Black Dahlia Murder with Geraldine M or Martha J: Tamar claimed her father George Hodel of sexually abusing her when she was just 14 years old. If nobody is calling you or those you love crackers, then you can see why negro is offensive you disrespectful mutant. To shield them from their father who might have felt the need to remove the threat of exposure of what he had done. To cite one instance, in December 1944 and February 1945, Steve and his brothers were living with their mother at 4555 Glenalbyn Drive in Mount Washington. That happened. Yes, I have always believed Tamar and her testimony as to events that occurred at the Franklin House with the three adults in July 1949. That is when he drugged her and took the naked photographs in the hotel room. St. Helens Hall would have been the name of the boarding hall. LAPDs refusal to look at it has I think, all to do with IMAGE. Yes. Stay tuned, lot more to come. I will continue to wear the dual masks of Drama (Thalia God of Comedy and Melpomene God of Tragedy). That makes her the ultimate heroine of this story and The House Of Hodel. But, I guess I would mainly want to pursue the WHY? I never visited Ireland, but would love to see it someday. No wonder she cared so much for you. In addition to new witness interviews and crime exhibits it includes hard physical evidence connecting the killer to his home and to the vacant lot at 3815 S. Norton, where he posed the bisected body of Elizabeth "Black Dahlia" Short. Have gone through many and varying reactions through the years. As with so many things, its something Steve Hodel would very much like to be true. She had gone to her father at age 12 and asked him to name her doll for her. They could not allow this to become public so they locked away the DA Secret Hodel Files for fifty-three years, until accidentally discovered by LA Times journalist Steve Lopez, and myself in 2003. My mother when confronted and questioned by LADA Lt. Frank Jemison about George Hodel knowing both Elizabeth Black Dahlia Short and the second photo of Mady Comfort lied and denied knowing either woman. These are deliberate misrepresentations and lies. If not George, who was the father of that baby? Steve. I think she may well have been addicted not just to alcohol, but possibly drugs too. But he also had a wild side and was well known in the Surrealist art scene, as well as the party and S&M scenes. Leigh: Thank you. As I indicated, after my niece Fauna came out with her creative license for dramatic effect as relates to inventing fictitious letters supposedly written by my mother, in her autobiography, I just ignored it. It is here updated to included additional photos and text.). Sadly, that cannot change. There were times when Dorothy Hodel was couldn't afford a residence and she and the children lived at the Sowden House. Im sure that you will be remembered for your enormous capacity to serve others without a thought for yourself. And, of course, 95% of the material in the IATN miniseries is fictional. Her writing touches me. Sad that her life was so tragic. anyone who can read can tell usually when using quotations that youre quoting what someone else in the past tense has said , ie: your half sister Tamar ,theres a reason people in his profession rank number 3 and 6 in professions favoured by Psychopaths. I dont know how she survived seven plus decades, living and knowing what she knew, but I am so grateful that despite the difficult Gypsy Years and her alcoholism, we were able to stay together as a family until each of us boys grew to adulthood. Your mothers words and your words are beautiful. 10: Civil Servant, the guy LH has a clock on his site saying how many years/months/days/hours/mins/secs since the movies rights have been bought for your book (hes that petty and sad), Kate: I knew I had to write them down. That was created from the fictional mini-series, I Am The Night which is 95% fiction. Daughter of Herman and Anna (Gensler) Lenger. Hello, Mr Hodel. But isnt it also true much of what you have put together, at least regarding the Black Dahlia, is also conjecture based on your own theories and no 100% proof so you could call that dramatic effect for your own writing and sales as well. five brothers all who were coal miners in PA, and my grandfathers parents Ive fought my whole life for equality of the races in both my thoughts and deeds so before calling this old White guy a racist you might want to take a look in the mirror and examine your own you people thoughts on the matter. Though truth be told it never was. In January 2004 some nine months after the publication of my first book, Black Dahlia Avenger: A Genius for Murder, (Arcade 2003) Tamar wrote and emailed me the below six-page Overview of the Tamar Chronicles. This was a summary of what she intended to be her autobiography in three parts. It is a bit eerie having been born in 1951 myself near LA and flashbacks of those real times. He preceded her in death on December 29, 2019. Your mother was all things including the most fantastical poet. Related Article It is confusing. Doreen Dorothy Hodel is 63 years old and lives in New York, New York. I had never been a big book person, but I just found you and your commentary fascinating and it drew me in from the beginning. Assume you are referring to the below paragraph. Much appreciated. I particularly remember she had a picture on her bureau and Im reasonably sure it was her father. Talk about racist. Steve: I have a feeling this hope-to-get-rich-quick Rose might have put in another literary appearance a few years later. Joan J: Hi Steven! Dorothy, Hodel's wife at the time of the Dahlia murder investigation, told authorities, "All I know is that he is not the sort of man psychologically to be the kind to do it. I just learned of the TNT series. It's a twisted story involving cover-ups, closed adoptions, and sexual abuse. YES. Veiled images. 3. Thanks for everything you did to clear this case up. I suppose thats a normal reaction when pondering a sociopathic ghoul who hates women and is incapable of feeling compassion, warmth, or tenderness for fellow human beings. I cant imagine the shock you have gone through when you found your first proofs. The poet that loved Beauty and Nature and encouraged each of her three sons to strive to be of Service, to Sacrifice, to Love. The people linked with this address are William Hodel and Reynold W Simpson. In 1940, she was 29 years old and lived in San Francisco, California, with her daughter. (That pregnancy was aborted in 1949.). Point is I was a teenager Not an adult when I became Fauna. That shines down eternally on all of us. Keelie K: Meghan Mountbatten Windsor, The Duchess of Sussex. So glad that as a grown man you understand that all the things she did she did to protect her sons. Miami Ghost Chronicles . Sometimes you have to heal the best way you know how and your feelings are very valid. New expert medical testimony and evidence photos proving-"A Doctor Did It." Complete original and unabridged 1950 DA-Hodel Black Dahlia Bugging Transcripts. Your email address will not be published. I have not read your books (yet) as I just stumbled onto your site after googling about the I am the night series after recently watching it. Yes. Same father, George Hodel. She said he smiled at her and said, Why dont you name her Elizabeth. During the telling of that story, she laughed and went on to say that seven years later she would name her own daughter, Deborah Elizabeth. Men like that dont change and remain flat earth believers until the end. Lots of social cocktail parties with the rich and famous and others, YES. Take care, Oh! Fauna did return to the Sowden/Franklin house for an episode on Ghost Adventures, but I believe on false pretext. Carr whose later position was, I dont know who killed her and Im too busy with other cases to look at Steve Hodels evidence and he then retire.d. Wishing you every blessing of peace this world could ever experience. Her alcoholism, her dark side when on binges, her arrests for child neglect. Far from a perfect woman and a serious victim to Stockholm Syndrome. Did she have character flaws? Thank you. Love. Plus, hes a doctor. She is included in my LA Lone Woman Murders and the circumstantial evidence is quite strong. Best, Steve, Do you think Dr. Hodel had anything to do with Jean Spanglers disappearance? Steve, Spangler was slain in early October 1949 and the assault and or probable murder of the unknown woman occurred on February 15, 1950, so moare than four months later. I mean, it was shocking to me, but it left John in an exalted and unusually talkative mood. For you, thank you for giving your readers and podcasts listeners a glimpse into such a traumatic time into your life as you fought to uncover such an ugly truth about your own father. But, no real investigations would occur with a corrupt police force and if the victim were a dead prostitute in a backstreet Manila alley. Would be easy fishing grounds for a man like GHH. It is wonderful you took that good from her and did so much with it. All I and my brothers knew was we were placed in Page Military Academy, and then about six months later, mom came and got us out and we moved to Palm Springs. In my opinion, Fauna chose to let people believe that maybe George was her father for dramatic effect. Same reason she totally invented three fictional letters supposedly written by my mother and sent to her mother which she included in her biography, Some Day Shell Darken. When I queried her after the book was published in 2008 about the invented letters, her response was, Well sometimes a writer has to take creative license for dramatic effect. That was the last time I ever spoke with my niece, Fauna Hodel. The Black Dahlia case was still open, but as the old saying goes, it was cold as Kelsey's nuts. But, mostly we were aware of the Mahatma (Beautiful Soul) within her. She desperately wanted to be loved. I imagine he will, as I was saying, too, to this individual yesterday, when there is no longer profit or benefit for him to go on, or when the liabilities of lying outweighs the assets. In 2003, Hodel's son Steve, who was a retired L.A. Police Department detective, wrote a book claiming his dad had killed several women in the basement. And the nonsense about George Hodel being a taxi driver and knowing the city of Los Angeles like the back of his hand, including the neighborhood on South Norton Avenue where Elizabeth Shorts body was found. Wherever this life takes you next, I want to remind you of what you already know: there is always hope over the horizon! Cath B: Earlier we hear the question, Does your husband know youre here? So, Im guessing she was slain, body disposed of like many of the other victims and her husband likely made a Missing Report on his wife, and she became just another lost/missing report in LA which was known as, The Port of Missing Persons. Time to channel Mary McCarthy: Every word he utters is a lie, including and and the.'. Do you feel that Tamar was credible and honest in her accusations against George in the time before and during the incest trial? Assume there was DNA left at Elizabeths crime scene? 1990s. That isnt my opinion as I havent read your books; I think my only exposure to your story was a segment I caught on one of the daytime talkies. It is believed to be correct at the . The grace comes from the provider Thanks. Tamar NOT GEORGE named her first daughter Fauna after a Robinson Jeffers poem just as her father had named her Tamar after a poem by Jeffers. Theyre listed as retired from the Los Angeles Times and its my impression theyve kept a blog and contributed to an online journal called The Daily Mirror. The name of the school St. Helens Hall never came up in any of my conversations with Tamar, but it is certainly possible. Unless mom, Tamar told YOU differently then what I am saying. Boris Johnson. Get it? They remained in touch with each other as long as I can remember.. her reasons to win his love and hopefully gain financial support as well. Thank you for this clarity. Enjoyable and compelling. . In The Mesquite New Clue Revealed: A Reader Discovers the Killers Taunting Purloined Letter Clue Lying in Plain Site, A Sharp-Eyed Reader Discovers a Major New Thoughtprint Further Linking George Hodel to the IN THE MESQUITE 1938 Double Murders of Hazel and Nancy Frome. So, for the past twelve or so years, I have chosen just to ignore his rantings. He has a fine record as a doctor and is a dedicated man but it is incredible to me that he should be in any way connected with it." . t. e. Jeane Duane Kirkpatrick (ne Jordan; November 19, 1926 - December 7, 2006) was an American diplomat and political scientist who played a major role in the foreign policy of the Ronald Reagan administration. It was such a different feeling from all the gray clouds swirling around me at the time. Naturally, Steve Hodel has never actually researched when the neighborhood was developed or he would know that it didnt exist when his father was driving a cab. I also applaud your family for bringing the years of abuse and neglect to light. Copyright 2023 Steve Hodel. But the arrangement was temporary. Meghan Markle. Yes, our mother was a very special woman. Only fleeting as it passes to the next. He also loved bullfighters even before he read Hemingway. Marie J: His IQ clocked in at 186. not be Mom still loved him. Steve and his two brothers, Kelvin and Michael, were in the custody of his mother, the former Dorothy Harvey, when she separated from George Hodel, and they lived at a number of residences when Steve was young. I made no review about her book from its publication (2008) until just a few months past, so 11-years of no comment.. He had no part in the naming. 4) Beverly Hills doctor linked to Morals case. Thanks for your thoughtful response Steve. I just wish we knew more about stopping these crimes before they start. They separated in August 1933. [3] Cheers. But, no relationship and he went out of his way to avoid any contact with Tamar. War bestimmt nicht einfach fr Sie zu erkennen was ihr Vater war.. Danke, Translation: I myself come from a family with many dark secrets, and I can understand the turmoil you must be feeling, and have felt through the years in your search for the truth. Fauna never met George Hodel and was never in the Sowden/Franklin House until long after her grandfathers death in 1999. Do I think that she gave you the middle name of Elizabeth to show her ongoing love for her father and to do as he wished and name her little doll, (this time a living doll) to please her father and fulfill his seven-year-old request, to name her Elizabeth? Alison K.P. I loved reading about her and reading her writings. his own suspect, a Dr. Walter Baylety who lived a short distance from the vacant lot. for Love Thanks for the kind words. It just strikes me tho that people come across this story and become fascinated (and rightly so, because its a tale that people can learn a lot from) by it, but then dont give credit/appreciation to the source that made it all possible. Fascinated here in Donegal does your husband know youre here Dr. dorothy hodel Baylety who lived a short distance the! 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