My uncle used to baptize 'em. Mammy had the wagon and two oxen and we worked a good size patch there until she died, and then I git married to Cal Robertson to have somebody to take care of me. My mammy was a Cherokee slave, and talked it good. That was sort of vault, where the family valuables was kept. The commissary was full of everything good to eat. The women dressed in white, if they had a white dress to wear. But later on I got a freedman's allotment up in dat part close to Coffeyville, and I lived in Coffeyville a while but I didn't like it in Kansas. In winter white folks danced in the parlor of the big house; in summer they danced on a platform under a great big brush arbor. Of course I hear about Abraham Lincoln and he was a great man, but I was told mostly by my children when dey come home from school about him. He said that those troops burned the Vann home during their pillage. One and a half years after the war we all come back to the old plantation. I went to see dem lots of times and they was always glad to see me. Pretty soon everybody commenced a singing and a prayin'. Joe had two wives, one was named Missus Jennie. He never seen them neither. Like the Ph.D. and the Christmas tree, as Tony Weir has pointed out, the Festschrift is a German import.2 The literal . In 1840 the town of Harrison was developed on an adjoining property, and the county seat of Hamilton County was moved south to the Tennessee River to this location. When the Cherokees discovered that so many of their slaves had fled, they organized a search party to pursue them. His grandfather was Clement Vann, a Scottish trader who moved from Charleston, South Carolina, to the Cherokee lands in northwest Georgia and married Wa-wli, a Cherokee Indian. They never sent us anywhere with a cotton dress. One day Missus Jennie say to Marster Jim, she says, "Mr. Vann, you come here. Mistress say old Master and my pappy on the boat somewhere close to Louisville and the boiler bust and tear the boat up. The Vanns later relocated to Indian Territory, present-day Oklahoma. He was descended from Robert The Bruce, King of Scotland. He and his sister Mary were children of James Vann and Nannie Brown, both Cherokee of mixed blood with white-European ancestry. Had sacks and sacks of money. My pappy was a kind of a boss of the Negroes that run the boat, and they all belong to old Master Joe. The cooks would bake hams, turkey cakes and pies and there'd be lots to eat and lots of whiskey for the men folks. Nails cost big money and Old Master's blacksmith wouldn't make none 'ceptin a few for old Master now an den so we used wooden dowels to put things together. MK DIXON Funeral Home, 337-940-9253 . There was a bugler and someone callled the dances. and. Don't know what they ever did with that arm. That sure was a tough time for the soldiers, for father said they fought and fought before the "Seesesh" soldiers finally took off to the south and the northern troops went back to Fort Gibson. Pedigree report of John Joseph Vann, son of Edward Ned Vann Sr and Mary Lewis Barnes (Ani'-Ga'tge'wi = Kituah or Wild Potato), born in 1736 in Jonesboro, Washington Co., Tennessee. Born 11 February 1798 - Spring Place, Cherokee Nation-East, IT., GA. Deceased 23 October 1844 - Aboard the Lucy Walker,aged 46 years old Parents James Vann, Chief 1809 Nancy Ann Timberlake Brown 1780-1850 Spouses and children Married, Georgia., USA, to Elizabeth Catherine Rowe 1798- with Living Vann Clarinda Rebecca Vann ca 1817- Delia Vann 1834- I dunno her other name. We settled down a little ways above Fort Gibson. I joined the Catholic church after the war. Next came the carpenters, yard men, blacksmiths, race-horse men, steamboat men and like that. He didn't want em to imagine he give one more than he give the other. Our clothes was home-made---cotton in the summer, mostly just a long-tailed shirt and no shoes, and wood goods in the winter. We had a good song I remember. Because I'se so little, Missus Jennie took me into the Big house and raised me. Numerous others had previously gone to Oklahoma when their masters voluntarily relocated. Don't know much about him. Sometimes us children would try to follow her, but she'd turn us around pretty quick and chase us back with: "Go on back to the house or the wolves get you.". Joseph Vann was born February 11, 1798 near Springplace in the Cherokee Nation (now Georgia) the son of James Vann and Nancy Brown. Among the several hundred slaves owned by the Vanns at that time, many were skilled craftsmen and tradesmen capable of helping build such a fine house. I lost my land trying to live honest and pay my debts. Chief Crazy James Vann James Clement Vann) Vann, Ii, <<Private>> Vann, Ii. In 1842, 35 slaves of Joseph Vann, Lewis Ross, and other wealthy Cherokees at Webbers Falls, fled in a futile attempt to escape to Mexico, but were quickly recaptured by a Cherokee possee. All the Vann marsters was good looking. During their pursuit of the escaped Negroes, the Cherokee Militia discovered the bodies of the two slave bounty hunters. Sometimes there was high waters that spoiled the current and the steamboats couldn't run. Mistress try to get de man to tell her who de negro belong to so she can buy him, but de man say he can't sell him and he take him on back to Texas wid a chain around his two ankles. townhomes for rent in pg county. I been a good Christian ever since I was baptized, but I keep a little charm here on my neck anyways to keep me from having the nose bleed. Young Joseph was his father's favorite child and primary recipient of his father's estate and wealth. Another time his officer give him a message; he was on his way to deliver it when the enemy spy him and cry out to stop, but father said he kept on going until he was shot in the leg. He related an unpleasant encounter with "Little Joe" Vann, son of "Rich Joe" Vann. They'd come to the door like this, "sh.." and go out quick again. Dey only had two families of slaves wid about twenty in all, and dey only worked about fifty acres, so we sure did work every foot of it good. Single girls waited on the tables in the big house. Many Creeks joined the Cherokee searchers. I don't know how old I is; some folks ay I'se ninety-two and some say I must be a hundred. The preacher took his candidate into the water. I don't know what he done after that. De furniture is all gone, and some said de soldiers burned it up for firewood. We take a big pot to fry fish in and we'd all eat till we nearly bust. Yes Lord yes. We had a smoke house full of hams and bacon. They rendezvoused with other slaves who had agreed to participate in the revolt, stole horses to ride to their freedom, then broke into a store to steal guns, ammunition, food, and supplies they needed for their planned escape to Mexicowhere slavery was illegal. Brown sugar, molasses, flour, corn-meal, dried beans, peas, fruits butter lard, was all kept in big wooden hogsheads; look something like a tub. We take a big pot to fry fish in and we'd all eat till we nearly bust. I got my allotment as a Cherokee Freedman, and so did Cal, but we lived here at this place because we was too old to work the land ourselves. Old Master had some kind of business in Fort Smith, I think cause he used to ride into dat town about every day on his horse. Master give me over to de National Freedmen's bureau and I was bound out to a Cherokee woman name Lizzie McGee. Its massive walls and hand-carved woodwork show excellent workmanship, and its unique hanging staircase is a marvel that piques the interest of many visitors. We even had brown sugar and cane molasses most of de time before de War, sometimes coffee, too. Two year old when my mamma died so I remember nothing of her, and most of my sisters and brothers dead too. The women dressed in whtie, if they had a white dress to wear. Some of these slaves served as crew members of Vann's steamboat, a namesake of his favorite race horse "Lucy Walker". Yes Sa. One day Missus Jennie say to Marster Jim, she says, "Mr. Vann, you come here. When the Vanns were forced from their Spring Place home in 1834, they took many slaves with them when they fled to safety in Tennessee. Mammy was the house girl and she weaved the cloth and my Aunt Tilda dyed the cloth with indigo, leaving her hands blue looking most of the time. My missus name was Doublehead before she married Jim Vann. Section 1 is called "Vann Ancestry and Early History" and will include only John Vann's ancestry up to his generation. Old Master tell me I was borned in November 1852, at de old home place about five miles east of Webbers Falls, mebbe kind of northeast, not far from de east bank of de Illinois River. Marster never whipped no one. He was accidentally killed in the explosion of one of his boats, the "Lucy Walker" which was blown up near Louisville, Kentucky on October 26, 1844. Mammy say they was lots of excitement on old Masters place and all the Negroes mighty scared, but he didnt sell my pappy off. A brother was owned by another Vann Family in Tahlequah. Born in Spring Place, Murray, Georgia, United States on 11 Feb 1765 to John Joseph 'Indian Trader' Cherokee Vann and WahLi Wa-Wli aka Polly Otterlifter Mary Christiana Otterlifter Wolf Clan. He born at Spring Place, Georgia on February 11, 1798. We left de furniture and only took grub and tools and bedding and clothes, cause they wasn't very big wagons and was only single-yoke. https://web.archive.org/web/20071026072208/http://www.cherokeebyblo Webbers Falls, Muskogee County, Oklahoma, United States of America. Marster Jim and Missus Jennie wouoldn't let his house slaves to with no common dress out. It was in the Grand River close to the ford, and winter time. Everything was cheap. I dunno her other name. The cooks would bake hams, turkey cakes and pies and there'd be lots to eat and lots of whiskey for the men folks. Soon as you come out of the water you go over there and change clothes. Mammy got a wagon and we traveled around a few days and go to Fort Gibson. I dont know about Robert Lee, but I know about Lees Creek. My uncle belong to old Captain Joe nearly all his life. He would tell em plain before hand, "Now no trouble." There'd be a hole wagon-load of things come and be put on the tree. Trusted by millions of genealogists since 2003. . When they gave a party in the big house, everything was fine. When the Indians decided to return home for reinforcements, the slaves started moving again toward Mexico. Sometims just white folks danced; sometimes just the black folks. There was five hundred slaves on that plantation and nobody ever lacked for nothing. sse Vann, James Clement Jr. Vann, Mary Vann, Delila Copeland (born Vann), John Vann, John Vann, Joseph Vann, John Vann, Mary Vann, Robert sse Vann, James Clement Jr. Vann, Mary Vann, Delila Copeland (born Vann), John Vann, John Vann, Joseph H Vann, John Vann, Mary Vann, Robe James (Ti-ka-lo-hi) (James Wahli Vann Etc. At least twenty-five of Vann's slaves participated in the Cherokee slave revolt of 1842. Revolution and the growth of industrial society, 1789- 1914 Developments in 19th-century Europe are bounded by two great events. I always think of my old Master as de one dat freed me, and anyways Abraham Lincoln and none of his North people didn't look after me and buy my crop right after I was free like old Master did. Eventually the Cherokee council granted Joseph the inheritance in line with his father's wish; this included 2,000 acres (8.1 km2) of land, trading posts, river ferries, and the Vann House in Spring Place, Georgia. Den I went to a subscription school for a little while, but didn't get much learning. Everything was kept covered and every hogshead had a lock. We patted her grave and kissed the ground telling her goodbye. Although Lucinda Vann was owned by Jim Vann, she told about the death of "Rich Joe" Vann and the recovery of one of his arms, following the deadly explosion on his steamboat, the Lucy Walker. It was tied up at de dock at Webbers Falls about a week and we went down and talked to my aunt an brothers and sister. On his extensive plantation some 800 acres were under cultivation. In one month you have to get back. We got letters all the time form Indians back in the territory. My mammy was a Crossland Negro before she come to belong to Master Joe and marry my pappy, and I think she come wid old Mistress and belong to her. The following oral history narrative is from the The WPA Oklahoma Slave Narratives in the Library of Congress, edited by T. Lindsay Baker, Julie Philips Baker: Yes Sa. The white folks go first and after they come out, the colored folks go in. We had seven horses and a litle buffalo we'd raised from when its little. My husband was a Cherokee born Negro, too, and when he got mad he forgit all the English he knowed. Edit your search or learn more As a result, they had to settle in Indian Territory (now Oklahoma). The slaves had a pretty easy time I think. Everybody had fine clothes everybody had plenty to eat. There were some Cherokee slaves that were taken to Mexico, however, she makes vivid references to Seminole leaders John Horse, and Wild Cat. He sold one of my brothers and one sister because they kept running off. Some Negroes say my pappy kept hollering, "Run it to the bank! Dat just about lasted em through until dey died, I reckon. Interestingly, Mrs. Vann also speaks of some time that her family spent before and during the war in Mexico. He had charge of all Master Chism's and Master Vann's race horses. In the pre-dawn hours of November 15, 1842, the Negroes locked their still-sleeping masters and overseers in their homes. chief vann family tree. Everybody had a good time on old Jim Vann's plantation. Old Mistress had a good cookin stove, but most Cherokees had only a big fireplace and pot hooks. Lord have mercy on us, yes. His britches was all muddy and tore where de hounds had cut him up in de legs when he clumb a tree in de bottoms. The last one was named for Hubbard Ross; he was related to Chief John Ross and was some kin to Daniel Nave, my father's master. She come up and put her nose on your just like this---nibble nibble, nibble. I had two brothers, Silas and George, dat belong to Mr. George Holt in Webber's falls town. Joseph was the son of a Chief of the Cherokees James Vann, and Nancy Brown Vann. Then he hide in the bushes along the creek and got away. Everybody had fine clothes everybody had plenty to eat. After it was wove they dyed it all colors, blue, brown, purple, red, yellow. Missus Jenni lived in a big house in Webbers Fall.s Don't know where the other one lived. 5. By 1800 slavery had become firmly entrenched in the Five Civilized Tribes. His father John Joseph VANN is about 48 years old in 1779 - estimations) Sept. 27 1793 - Daniel SMITH Letter to Henry KNOX. The slaves who worked in the big house was the first class. People all a visitin'. Dey called young Mr. Joe "Little Joe Vann" even after he was grown on account of when he was a little boy before his pappy was killed. I would stay around about a week and help em and dey would try to git me to take something but I never would. Marster had a big Christmas tree, oh great big tree, put on the porch. Then the preacher put you under water three times. Others were returned to their owners. The slave cabins was in a row, and we lived in one of them. Then I had clean warm clothes and I had to keep them clean too! Web. They had one son: Isaac Vann. Don't know where the other one lived. The slaves had a pretty easy time I think. 1800. Little hog, big hog, didn't make no difference. He would sing for us, and I'd like to hear them old songs again! My pappy was a kind of a boss of the negroes that run the boat, and they all belong to Old Maser Joe. They get something they need too. There was big parties and dances. TRI Train Rental GmbH. It look lots of clothes for all them slaves. It was Dont Call the Roll, Jesus, Because Im Coming Home. The only song I remember from the soldiers was: Hang Jeff Davis to a Sour Apple Tree, and I remember that because they said he used to be at Fort Gibson one time. Master Jim and Missus Jennie was good to their slaves. When we git to Fort Gibson they was a lot of negroes there, and they had a camp meeting and I was baptized. He tell us for we start, what we must say and what to do. That was where all the food was kept. One time we sold one hundred hogs on the foot. Master went plumb blind after he move back to Webber's Falls and so he move up on de Illinois River, about three miles from de Arkansas, and there old Mistress take de white swelling and die and den he die pretty soon. Maybe old Master Joe Vann was harder. The only song I remember from the soldiers was" "Hang Jeff Davis to a Sour Apple Tree," and I remember that because they said he used to be at Fort Gibson one time. They spun the cottons and wool, weaved it and made cloth. The band of escaping slaves came upon two white men who were fugitive slave hunters returning eight Negroes they had recaptured to their Choctaw master. My pappy run away one time, four or five years before I was born, mammy tell me, and at that time a whole lot of Cherokee slaves run off at once. Dat was de time dat was the hardest and everything was dark and confusion. Christmas lasted a whole month. Cal Robertson was eighty-nine years old when I married him forty years age, right on this porch. His master Daniel Nave, was Cherokee. I wouldn't go, so he sent Isaac and Joe Vann dat had been two of Old Captain Joe's negroes to talk to me. Soon as you come out of the water you go over there and change clothes. The grandparents were Joseph Vann, a Scottish trader who came from the Province of South Carolina, and Cherokee Mary Christiana (Wah-Li or Wa-wli Vann). He builds the large brick mansion house at Spring Place, Murray Country, Georgia, which stands today as a monument at its owner. When they get it they take it back to their cabin. A town was laid out on his Hamilton Country farm which was called, Vanntown. He got that message to the captain just the same. Joseph married Wah Wli Vann (born Otterlifter). Someone call our names and everybody get a present. Yes, my dear Lord yes. I been a good Christian ever since I was baptised, but I keep a little charm here on my neck anyways, to keep me from having the nose bleed. Everybody had plenty to eat and plenty to throw away. They brought it home and my granmother knew it was Joe's. When night came we cut grass and put the bed clothes on top for a bed. Deutsche Bahn Regional. Do you know what I am going to do? Pappy's name was Caesar Sheppard and Mammy's name was Easter. Joseph had 21 siblings: Delilah Amelia McNair (born Vann), Mary Ga Ho Ga Vann and 19 other siblings. , Nancy Vann, John Shepherd Vann, David Vann, Jane Elizabeth Vann, Sallie Blackburn Vore (born Vann), Joseph W. Vann, William Vann, Miner Spring Place, Murray County, Georgia, United States of America, Spring Place, Murray County, Georgia, United States, Cherokee () Principal Chiefs and Uka: Eastern, Western and Keetoowah, Chief Joseph Rich Joe Vann, Principal Chief, http://homepages.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~lpproots/Neeley/cvann.htm, http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lucy_Walker_steamboat_disaster. Wife belong to de church and all de children too, and I think all should look after saving their souls so as to drive de nail in, and den go about de earth spreading kindness and hoeing de row clean so as to clinch dat nail and make dem safe for Glory. She done his washing and knew the cuff of his sleeve. The first time I married was to Clara Nevens, and I wore checked wool pants, and a blue striped cotton shirt. I go to this house, you come to my house. Dey would come up in a bunch of about nine men on horses and look at all our passes, and if a negro didn't have no pass dey wore him out good and made him go home. Every dollar she make on the track, I give it to Lucy." In summer when it was hot, the slaves would sit in the shade evening's and make wooden spoons out of maple. I'se born across the river in the plantation of old Jim Vann in Webbers Falls. We had about twenty calves and I would take dem out and graze-em while some grown-up negro was grazing de cows so as to keep de cows milk. Yes I was! Everybody had plenty to eat and plenty to throw away. There was a big dinner bell in the yard. Lord no, he didn't. "We'd say "Come on buffalo", and it would come to us. The Chief Vann House is the first brick residence in the Cherokee Nation, and has been called the "Showplace of the Cherokee Nation".Owned by the Cherokee Chief James Vann, the Vann House is a Georgia Historic Site on the National Register of Historic Places and one of the oldest remaining structures in the northern third of the state of Georgia.It is located in Murray County, on the outskirts . He done already sold 'em to a man and it was dat man was waiting for de trader. There was a house yonder where was dry clothes, blankets, everything. After the old time rich folks die, them that had their money buried, they com back and haunt the places where it is. Joseph H. Vann was born at Spring Place, Georgia on February 11, 1798. My father he say, "Now chillun, don't get smart; you just be still and listen, rich folks tryin tell us something" They come and call you, say so much money buried, tell you where it is, say it's yours, you come and get it. 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